Please leave a comment so I know everyone has seen the blog. I am thinking that we can use THIS blog as a communications vehicle. It works well for lenthy discussions and thought organization. However we will need some type of a webpage authorization tool for creating subsequent documents and files.
I am thinking of using either SOHO.com, googlepages.com or pbwiki.com for our web authorization\collaboration efforts (i.e. the materials we create while creating the framwork)
I know Soho has many creative tools and they make it easy to share the work but, they don't have a dashboard feature that I am aware of that will put everything in one place for organizational needs.
What do you think? For example. We need to start with Dr. Parke's original document. It would be nice to have a central place where we can all access it to start the analysis and synthesis steps.
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Dear Charles,
ReplyDeleteThank you for creating the blog. This will work well for me.
Sincerely,
Helen
Charles, I have no particular preference as what tool(s) we use for collaboration. I'm sure many of the others have much more experience and would have a preference. Whatever you feel would be best is fine with me.
ReplyDeleteCharlie,
ReplyDeletedo you mean ZoHo? one of the tools that John demoed at the Retreat? And I'm not great with web authoring.
If we wants to start this thing (Deal or no deal), there are a couple of questions that we need to answer first.
ReplyDelete1) Discovery or Exploration?
I am not using discovery, but I don't want to exclude anyone here that is using discovery.
2) Chapter or topics?
We can pick something small. For example any chapter from routing or switching.
We can pick something big. For example subnetting. Academy expect us to teach concept of subnetting in a single chapter (or single lecture) and we know this is not possible. I break the subnetting chapter into smaller sections and do it in about 8 to 10 small lectures on subnetting.
Any thought?
Tony
Hey all, I'm here. We can also use dabbleboard.com. It is an online whiteboard that I use with my class.
ReplyDeleteI have taken the liberty to create a project on a project management site located at http://icnar.teamworkpm.net/
ReplyDeleteIf this works for you, just email me and I will grant all of you access to it. I think it would be nice to have some form of project management in place for us to use. I will give all of you Admin rights for changes and additions. Just let me know.
Hi.
ReplyDeleteWe are not here to see who has the better tool or software. Let's get the discussion going. Time is running out.
Tony
Gang,
ReplyDeleteI am using Discovery, and understand that most of the rest of you are using Exploration. I'm not sure it makes that much difference since many of the topics are the same. From Dr. Parke's template it seems that we can either choose a Chapter or a Topic. If it doesn't seem too overwhelming I think we should try one of each and include the particular network skill that accompanies it.
Martha, I think your idea has some value. Let's choose a topic and then work with the chapter in both discovery and exploration that deals with it. I'm much more familiar with exploration. I've found many times that the chapters add related material that just confuses students. I agree with Tony. How about a routing or switching chapter that has a lot of added material in exploration and then we can see what the chapter looks like in discovery.
ReplyDeleteJust looking over exploration 2 and 3 here are a couple of my favorites.
ReplyDeleteExploration 3, Chapter 5, STP - Can it be possible to make this chapter any more difficult? After 60 pages of diagrams and every from of STP available how can beginning students not be confused.
Exploration 2, Chapter 9, EIGRP - Come on! It is really necessary to be able to hand calculate EIGRP metrics? I thought this was what routers were for!
Anyone else have any nominations. I would agree with Tony about subnetting but I think we all reteach this over a long period of time. It would be a pretty large task for the first go-around.
Martha, I don't have my discovery books with me. Would any of these work for you?
I use the exploration curriculum as well but also agree that we can choose a topic instead of a chapter so we cover something from the discovery and exploration curriculum. The concepts are the same but the delivery is what makes it different. I agree with Tony when it comes to subnetting. The big question is what would we like to see as instructors that will help the learning process of our students or what can we do to enhance the objectives given to our students?
ReplyDeleteI teach at the high school level and see a diverse group of learning styles. I have some students that understand the theory but have problems implementing the technical aspects. I also have students that struggle with the theory but have no problems with the practical implementations. Then I have the students that struggle with everything or do not struggle with anything. I'm sure you all see this as well.
With that said, I think we need to choose a topic that will benefit each level of learning. We need to have something visual to enhance the visual style of learning. We need something with audio to accompany the visual that will help the auditory learning style and something that will tie it all together in a physical environment. This is what I do when I create videos for my students to download. I create a video for every chapter in the curriculum and also generate more labs for them to do as homework. The labs match the videos that I create.
Now, what I just explained to you covers two of the area's Helen described in the outline:
Background Content Information via PowerPoint with modifiable visuals*
Lab Investigation using Packet Tracer or NetLab or Equipment
We need to have everyone come up with a topic and a brief description.
As for using tools, we need something to help us put all of this together. If we all do work on the outline provided, who is going to put it all together? What info will be put in and left out? Who is doing what? This is why I generated the project management site.
CK,
ReplyDeleteEIGRP will work, but I prefer OSPF since they will be using it again later, multi-area.
And STP is OK, but how about VTP,
Ron, how on earth do you have time to do all the supplemental. Sounds like you've done this whole project already. Could we have access to your videos to see the approach you've taken?
I have some posted on my website at www.cavcccna.com then click on Overview. I work on them in the evenings, on weekends and during my prep period. I put most of them on a CD/DVD for them to download to their flash drives since most of them are very large. The ones on my website are simple configuration videos. This way they can see exactly how to configure different areas on the router/switch.
ReplyDeleteI like OSPF and VTP myself. These would be very good topics (and I already have some video for them). This would save some time.
I'm easy. OSPF or VTP or fine with me too. I must say I would prefer OSPF between these two because it is the more complicated of the two topics.
ReplyDeleteRon,
ReplyDeleteAnd you have time to blog ;-)
I'll take a look at the videos.
Tx,
M
If everyone is in agreement then I guess it looks like OSPF? I think we can come up with a "Head scratching question" to address. The Template Dr. Parke sent us is posted on https://icnar.teamworkpm.net/ for us to use. If you want access, just email me and I will set you up.
ReplyDeleteSorry for not keeping up. I'm back. Looks like we are settled on the topic of OSPF?
ReplyDeleteOSPF is good with me...
ReplyDeleteRon, group,
ReplyDeleteOSPF it seems to be, and please Set me up with access to the icnar.teamworkpm site.
A couple of 'head scratching questions' we might initially consider are "How the heck do I figure the wildcard mask?" or "managing the election process"
TX
What about "What the heck is a wildcard mask and how do I configure it?" I plan on doing a video on this subject for my class. An actual "Recorded Lesson" that we can use. I do have a "configuration" snippet that show how to configure OSPF but that doesn't explain what I am doing or why I'm doing it.
ReplyDeleteRon,
ReplyDeleteI like your take on the topic, now here's another thought, what if we did this as like a talk show interview? Are we going to go that far with these ideas?
I like that idea Martha...what does everyone else think?
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